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12 Rules for Life is to Jordan Peterson as Screwtape Letters is to CS Lewis.

12 Rules for Life is to Jordan Peterson as Screwtape Letters is to CS Lewis.

July 30, 2019

I gave 2 lectures to the CS Lewis Society of California about JBP's 12 Rules for Life. In this first one I do some comparisons with Lewis' Screwtape Letters. This is the same video that is on the Lewis Society Channel. https://youtu.be/yL-j1Tnn67Y

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Julian asks “Who’s Afraid of Postmodernism?”

Julian asks “Who’s Afraid of Postmodernism?”

July 29, 2019

Julian has read James KA Smith has a book by this title and wants to discuss it. He gives some brief chapter summaries and off we go!

Notes
James KA Smith Who’s Afraid of Postmodernism
What is a metanarrative?
“Not just a grand story but legitimate the story by an appeal to universal reason”
Through faith you live into the story. The role of faith in knowing
Derrida: there is nothing outside of the text
There is no seeing that isn’t interpretation
Always seeing the text through your lenses
There is no text without context
The necessity of the interpretive community
Shapes each other to see the world as Christians see it
The community makes you see in the narrative
You can’t see without interpretation
Foucault: power is knowledge
Knowledge and power are inextricably linked
Whenever there is a power system it will form people into their way of seeing the world
Gets at this through a long study of the prison system
JBP
Jesus as Christus Victor
Principalities and Powers
Protestant Reformation
Bible as a way of back to Christ instead of the church going forward
The end of Protestantism
Stanley Hauerwas
Hannah’s Child

 

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The Persian Prosperity Gospel meets the Culture War

The Persian Prosperity Gospel meets the Culture War

July 27, 2019

The book of Ezra ends with Ezra invested with imperial power to apply the God of Heaven's rules to the exile community. Front and center are the wives taken from the non-remnant community. What to do? You have issues of church and state and marriage between different communities.

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Nathan Jacobs, Nones, LIfe Itself, Stranger than Fiction, Karma, Life after Death, the Trinity

Nathan Jacobs, Nones, LIfe Itself, Stranger than Fiction, Karma, Life after Death, the Trinity

July 26, 2019

In my second talk with Nathan we start to get into the shape of unbelief of post-Christian Nones. The movies "Life Itself" and "Stranger than Fiction" illustrate two aspects the conflict between the impersonality of their weakened Karma, their desire for justice and meaning. I want to know what a "person" is which leads to a very long explanation of the difference between Augustine, Boethius, and the Eastern Fathers on the Trinity and why it matters. Lots of analysis of contemporary post-Christian unbelief, philosophy and theology. We'll talk again because we're only starting to explore.

His movie: Becoming Truly Human Becoming Truly Human. https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Truly-Human-Nathan-Jacobs/dp/B0759QXCCG
Our First Conversation https://youtu.be/zNJe9-JdJRs
Life Itself https://www.amazon.com/Life-Itself-Oscar-Isaac/dp/B07FJNY7MT
Stranger than Fiction https://www.amazon.com/Stranger-than-Fiction-Will-Ferrell/dp/B000NTHT6G

Conversation Notes
Becoming truly human
Stranger than Fiction
Dr. Jim
Stoic philosophy
The passions
Apathea
You have cultivated a gap between impulse and reaction
If it’s appropriate to be angry here…
Impassability of God by ancients and greek philosophy
Process philosophy and theology
Open theism
Personhood
Hyposis
Persona
Augustine
Augustine arrives as persons as relations
Realism vs nominalism
Is that a fabrication of the mind
Way of mentally grouping things but the groups aren’t real
Realism says these categories are real outside of the mind,
We are participating
Extreme realism vs moderate realism
Rafael school of Athens
Where are the forms
Ideal substance
The good of a thing is the closer it gets to its archetype
Aristotle says this is problematic because… the third man problem
Aristotle’s conclusion is that abstract definitions, the ideal is the basic definition
No concrete existence until it manifests in matter
Matter and form, Clay already has form inside ofit
What matter truly is, is just the potential to be something
Matter is pure potential
Combination of matter and form
Dun Scotus
The thisness of the thing, hexeatas
The one non-repeatable property: being this and not that
Boethius on the Trinity
Hypastus
Athanasius of Alexandria vs Arius
Homoousia vs homoiousia
Most people us “God” as an individual
Theos as the divine nature, as a predicate
The english is misleading
The ancients don’t indigenize words and ideas
They see language as sign posts
Constantinople
Hypostis ousia
They are synonyms prior to Constantinople
A rift between realists and nominalists
Cyril of Alexandria
Any individual has three components
The difference between individuals come down to the natures
Material, potential to be something, underrights the possibility of change
All these things are underwritten by matter
The matter underwrites the possibility of change
Properties: subsets: essential properties, accidental properties
Individual
Material
Properties

Aristotles 4 causes

Three things from the Patristics
How critical realism is to the answering of these questions
Natural law ethics
Life Itself vs the Eastern Patristic God
Maximus the Confessor talks about Christ’s descent into Hades
Lewis in the Space Trilogy
Universal salvation
Reality of hell

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Jordan Peterson Convention? Being a Christian without knowing?

Jordan Peterson Convention? Being a Christian without knowing?

July 25, 2019

Job asks (through Jeff) when are we going to have Lobstercon? (There already is one apparently but not involving JBP). Can you be a Christian and not know Christ? Lots more CS Lewis.
My first talk with Jeff https://youtu.be/JoAHv6_LG_w
Jeff in the 4 Way Conversation https://youtu.be/mHBVLEthbgk

Lobstercom

Job’s challenge

God and evil

When can someone call themself a christian

Secretly influenced Christian

Can someone be a Christian without knowing it
Can Christ flow through non-Christian
Can Christ fully know someone without someone knowing Christ

CS Lewis God in the Dock. questions for factory workers.
Answers to questions on Christianity
How you would define a practicing Christian
In that sense there are no practicing Christians.
Everything as something that comes from him. How would he wish me to deal with this.

Is intentionally cooperating with God without being able to accept him consciously good enough? Good enough for what? What is good enough for God? What is acceptable to God?

Blog post. Mere Christianity. The world does not consist of 100% Xians and non-Xians.

The Last Battle: Emith in Aslan’s heaven

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Jem Works to Sort Himself Out

Jem Works to Sort Himself Out

July 24, 2019

My second conversation with Jem. Here was the first. https://youtu.be/M9Pt255ngTg

Notes
Something in common with Zizek
Failed that course by default
Ended up going to a dark place, 39 and unskilled
Struggling a lot now
Quite a long time to get over the disappointment
It did get him studying the knowledge his parents would never had wanted him to read
Self-medicate, isolated, friendships weakened
Trying to self-isolate because friends self-medicate
Arriving at a point when he’s not sure he survive life without God
Training to be a gym instructor
Helped by some of the comments
We come before God broken, sinful, etc.
Can we believe in God video…
God-fearing
Why do I try not to do wrong when he’s an agnostic?
He was frightened that one day judgment or justice might be visited upon him…
JBP built a rod for his own back
After all those years of dissing God now you want back in…
Woke theology
Chernobyl
Ex Anglican Minister Gavin Ashendon
One of the priests to the Queen
A few years ago he left the church of England
His church is releasing them online
Been single
Two competing moral systems.
Traditional system married young as a virgin, Process of courtship
New morality since the 60s says sleep around…
A lot of people end up getting hurt
You can’t uncouple sex from emotion
Sex can be like a drug

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Men without Chests, Women without Breasts, Too Many Boobs, not enough Breasts

Men without Chests, Women without Breasts, Too Many Boobs, not enough Breasts

July 22, 2019

Mary is back to riff on CS Lewis, John Vervaeke, A Quality Existence, Byrne Powers and others.

Stanley Hauerwas The Content of Character
Practical Theology by Peter Kreeft

Men and women
JBP GQ Interview. Encouraging his daughter to be a mother
Breasts as organs of perception
Hooters: eyes of an owl with breasts
Owl is a sacred bird for the goddess Athena, purity and domestic arts
Men without chests, women without breasts
Too many boobs, not enough breasts

Sevilla, A Quality Existence

John Vervaeke
He’s got a big heart. He’s a man with a chest. He wants to help people.
Romanticism
“Who’s the we”
Conversation Jordan Greenhall
Food is information
People have a pervasive feeling of scarcity
Jul Saletan, wanted to feel like he was nestled in abundance
Jonathan Pageau, Jesus connecting the top and bottom of the hierarchy
Taking the bottom and connect it to the top
They have to be connected through Christ
Anadromist, Byrne Power likes to feed people

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Bring your Jesus Voice

Bring your Jesus Voice

July 20, 2019

Zerubbabel won't let the others participate in the rebuilding of the Hebrew temple. Weren't the nations supposed to stream to the temple? The rivalry and enmity between the Jews and the Samaritans would last for hundreds of years, maybe longer. What should we think of all this.

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Can Jordan Peterson’s Church Goal be the same as Bishop Barron’s Right Praise?

Can Jordan Peterson’s Church Goal be the same as Bishop Barron’s Right Praise?

July 19, 2019

Second dive into the Peterson/Barron conversation. JBP criticizes the church for failing to hold forth a noble goal for people to follow. Bishop Barron jumps in with "right praise". At first I didn't see the connection but later I did. Can this work to address the church's decline? What's getting in the way?
JBP and Bishop Barron on YT now https://youtu.be/cXllaoNQmZY 

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Who is John Vervaeke and What is “The Meaning Crisis”?

Who is John Vervaeke and What is “The Meaning Crisis”?

July 18, 2019

John Vervaeke is a professor at the University of Toronto. He has a YouTube series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis which I've been following. This is the first of hopefully more conversations on his work.

John's Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke 
Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ 

Zombies https://www.amazon.com/Zombies-Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century-ebook/dp/B072KS2PGB 

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