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Church Essense, Propositional Truth and Doubting or Atheist Leaders

Church Essense, Propositional Truth and Doubting or Atheist Leaders

September 5, 2019

We've been watching the transformation of Job from depressed atheist through Jordan Peterson phenom to church membership as an atheist to leadership in the Discord server to possibilities of leadership in his local church. Job's been very transparent about this whole process.

I thought it would be fun to sit down with Rod Hugen from The Village in Tuscon, John Van Donk from Crosspoint in Southern CA, and myself just for a fun chat. Job wanted to use the time to reflect on how the strange events of the Jordan Peterson phenomenon have changed our lives over the last two years with my videos and the meetups we've started. I thought it was a great topic so why not. This is where the conversation went.

Rod Hugen can be found at The Village on Tucson http://www.villagersonline.com/
John Van Donk hosts meetups https://www.meetup.com/Jordan-Peterson-Inland-Empire-Meetup/
Job is easily found in the comments or on the Discord server (see link below)

Notes
Outer court ministry

What I'm personally very interested in, gentlemen -- is how each of you has been experiencing this movement over the last two years. What have you found? Where do you think it is going? What role should you play? What role might the church play?

Surge of atheist seekers

More socially acceptable of being atheists

Depression and the grand search for meaning

Searching for big T Truth

4 ways of knowing, procedural, propositional, perspectival, participatory

Crc

The Ordination of (still sort-of-atheist) Job

The resurrection and the Salton Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea

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My Review of A Secret History of Christianity by Mark Vernon, Owen Barfield

My Review of A Secret History of Christianity by Mark Vernon, Owen Barfield

September 4, 2019

The time for Owen Barfield's idea of the evolution of consciousness as participation may have come. Mark Vernon has written a book on Barfield's idea applying it to the history of Greek, Hebrew and Christian history. The publisher was kind enough to give me an advanced copy. I was not paid for this review.

Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1789041945
CS Lewis Miracles https://www.amazon.com/Miracles-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060653019
Groups A & B Videos https://youtu.be/GJ9njeaS-iE and https://youtu.be/bsbaSFUSeAM

My first conversation with Mark Vernon https://youtu.be/3a2YlaCkmns
Mark Vernon and Michael Leighty https://youtu.be/5zk1H9ph7Vk
Mark Vernon on Unbelievable https://youtu.be/2LIg0Xh3Sbk

 

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Brains Bodies Mind Groups A&B Matter Darwin Relevance Realization

Brains Bodies Mind Groups A&B Matter Darwin Relevance Realization

September 1, 2019

Is Mind dependent upon Brains? This is one of those worldview watershed items. I won't solve this here but it is one of those big issues we are wrestling with in the meaning crisis. If Johnny spends all of his time playing video games and pleasuring himself to porn and finds that meaningful is there a problem? Most think so. Why?

Vervaeke's last series of videos have been challenging and mind-expanding. We still don't know where consciousness comes from but it seems important when we tell a grieving loved one that their beloved is not "gone" in a more significant way that just their memory.

The audio quality isn't great on this video. I'm still sorting out my software woes but I don't want to delete it so here it is as a USA Labor day gift to you. Links below.

Meaning Crisis 33 https://youtu.be/_zkLevmQe90
Meaning Crisis 31 https://youtu.be/gfKcVbNd7Xc
Symptoms of Meaning Crisis https://youtu.be/Sd549Qz957k
Groups A and B Video https://youtu.be/GJ9njeaS-iE
The Metaphysical Club https://www.amazon.com/Metaphysical-Club-Story-Ideas-America/dp/0374528497
Jesus casts out Legion https://youtu.be/9U1CfN6sgko

The Meaning Code (Karen's channel) https://youtu.be/L3qv60M_Bf4 
Quantum Fields Real Building Blocks https://youtu.be/zNVQfWC_evg 

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Privilege Chaos Faith Restoration

Privilege Chaos Faith Restoration

August 31, 2019

Jesus returns to the other side of the sea and is confronted by a man of privilege desperate because his daughter is dying. On the way Jesus' miracle pocket is picked by a desperate woman whose been suffering as long as the dying girl has been alive.

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Paul Anleitner, From Charismania to a Better Integrated Participation

Paul Anleitner, From Charismania to a Better Integrated Participation

August 30, 2019

Paul is a pastor, teacher, podcaster who's been working the same beat as I have on Jordan Peterson, the Meaning Crisis, etc. I was on his show once and in this he returns the favor.

We do a deep dive into his story from how the Roman Catholic charismatic movement changed his parents to his own journey through some of the wilder spaces in the Pentecostal scene. In many ways Paul and I are working towards similar goals and so in this long conversation we not only delve into his story but we compare notes.

Deep Talks: Exploring Theology & Meaning-Making

Podcast
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Wp Films does films on charismatic movement http://www.wpfilm.com/

Formal education’s collapse
Discord channel
Roman Catholic parents
Charismatic renewal in the 1970s
Born again experience in college
Relational evangelism
Fellowship of Christian Athletes
Bill McCartney and Promise Keepers
The life of the mind
Mom was after the mystical experience
Kenneth Copeland
Benny Hinn
Music was the sacrament in the Charismatic church
The presence of God was in worship
Full on revival hit the school, Toronto blessing, Brownsville Revival
Sanctinasium
Musical expression of worship was their sacrament
Charismatic culture
Worship music as a means of communion with God
Parachurch ministry helping churches establish houses of prayer
International House of Prayer in Kansas City
Kansas City prophets
Restoration of the Tabernacle of David
Literal setting up of Davidic style worship
Greg Boyd Open Theism
Going through a theological evolution, some deconstruction
Gold Dust, actual jewels,
Charismania
Cognitive dissonance
Azusa Street revival
Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris
Dwight Hopkins liberation theology
Three domains: spirit, aesthetic (creative expression of spirit) Aesthetic is a portal to spirit, culture as labor

It’s like Jacob’s Ladder, angels ascending and descending
Our values are invisible
Labor and aesthetic are always subordinate to spirit
James KA Smith
Nietzsche
Music as the means of grace
Finger of God Movie

Prosperity gospel and word of faith
Rodney Howard Brown
Kenneth Hagan
Toking the Ghost
God’s just really frugal

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Rural Family Doctor, Raised CRC, Jordan Peterson, Vervaeke, Christianity, Life

Rural Family Doctor, Raised CRC, Jordan Peterson, Vervaeke, Christianity, Life

August 29, 2019

Many of you are going to LOVE John. I was the son of a home missionary. He was the son of a radio missionary. I did Calvin College. He did Trinity. He became a family doctor in a small town, able to work with his hands. He was into Jordan Peterson before he was big. He does podcasts and audiobooks as he bikes to work.

Grew up in South Holland, IL
Doctor in rural montana
Stop talking start doing Jordan Peterson
John Vervaeke
Opt in, opt out
Are you in, can you forgive?
Small town, you do more because of necessity
Tim Lee conversation https://youtu.be/mOgyJS621nE
Vervaeke is giving new vocabulary
Addiction is nothing better to do
Intellectuals have better things to do by sitting and thinking
Agency
Ubiquitously known knowledge about how to be healthy
Fasting is the most powerful medical tool, cheap, safe drug called the third eye
Skip a meal, skip a pill
He lets his patience text him
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Philosopher, farmer fabricator
Augustine college, about 15 students in Ottawa Canada https://www.augustinecollege.org/
What does progressive mean?
Progressive is virtually death
Your ark is your community
Randos United
How to graze efficiently, guillotine
Mental illness and loss of community, domicide
Permission to share

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Are you a Fully Knowable Object or Colonizing Agent (or both)? Pinker and CS Lewis

Are you a Fully Knowable Object or Colonizing Agent (or both)? Pinker and CS Lewis

August 28, 2019

Pageau illustrates Pinker's reduction of human complexity, but the problems go deep with Naturalism. We can imagine two groups. Group A of things that "go on their own" and Group B of Colonizing Agents who move objects in group A. How are these two groups related? Are they one group or two? Does Group B exist? We all act like there are two groups and we are in the second.

Pageau on Pinker https://youtu.be/eqgfgBH0ICw
Peterson and Pinker https://youtu.be/pBylbB7s5Nw
Random Numbers https://youtu.be/SxP30euw3-0
Whitehead on Reason http://www.anthonyflood.com/whiteheadreason.htm
CS Lewis Miracles https://www.amazon.com/Miracles-C-S-Lewis-ebook/dp/B002BY77FY
Weinstein Portal e4 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563
War on Sense Making Rebel Wisdom https://youtu.be/7LqaotiGWjQ

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Finding and Losing Meaning through Military Community

Finding and Losing Meaning through Military Community

August 26, 2019

The armed forces can provide a bonding experience that has become increasingly rare in Western society. As individuals we voluntarily give up for the sake of national defense much of what we jealously guard as private citizens. This makes an interesting case study for the Meaning Crisis.

San Diego, evangelical, legalistic, Calvary chapel, homeschooled
Non-denominational churches
EV Free church
Non-denom is like a box of chocolates
How we absorb things in church
Not many Christian professors in college
Too difficult NOT TO believe…
Seattle culture
Oklahoma
Meaning crisis
Army for 6 years
A lot in the military are dealing with it now
Had meaning and clearly defined sense of purpose in the military
Loss of meaning after leaving military
John Cougar Mellencamp Glory Days
Building the altar for God to light the fire
Wild at Heart by John Elderidge
Church shopping advice
Tribe by Sebastion Junger
Wars are a futile endeavor
Afghanistan
Happy people in Afghanistan
Marie Kondo

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Exorcising Demons, Mental Illness, Dietary Laws, Becoming a Real Person

Exorcising Demons, Mental Illness, Dietary Laws, Becoming a Real Person

August 24, 2019

Jesus gets to the other side of the sea and encounters someone described as having an "unclean" spirit. Right away many contemporary readers feel like they are forced to choose between two worldviews: scientific therapeutic or Christian mythological. Many contemporary translations don't help. Why describe the spirit as "unclean"? Is this just a made up story?

Mark 5:1-20 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark+5%3A1-20&version=NET  

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Barfield Participation and the Cleansing of the Temple in the Gospel of John

Barfield Participation and the Cleansing of the Temple in the Gospel of John

August 23, 2019

My church work is on another channel for a variety of reasons but often in my Sunday School class you can see the fruit of my labors in Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, and the Meaning Crisis. In this August 11 lesson in order to figure out what is happening in the version of the cleansing of the temple in the Gospel of John I give a lay treatment of the explanation of between original participation and non-participation. I thought this might be of interest to some of you.

Whole lesson https://youtu.be/wTZYEklLoic 

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